Bye Sorry i will miss you but i still have 4-5 months near you

I will miss all of my friends and i know that they will miss me. I am looking forward to the long days home and not having to go to the school in the mornings. I can't wait until i move to Florida with my grandmother and that i will not be coming back for a year and i am going to make new friends but i will miss my old ones. I want to have a break from my family and also my sister is going to college and i will miss her alot. I know that my mom and dad will miss me but it's my choice and i think it would be a great experience and a great oppurtunity. I realy want to experience being a new guy in the school and have a good and fresh start. And when i leave florida its going to be sad but i'll have something to look forward when i visit my grandmother. For now i can't work because Hannaford Doesn't let people work there until you 16 or older. So I can't make any money over the summer but owell. I doen't feel like reading over the summer but i will try.

Vacation & Break

When I thnk of break I think that it's cool to get a bunch of days off to do whatever you want but then you have to go back to school and your like "sfkdhfkdgdfghfdkgd" so it's good and bad. Vacation is kind of just like a larger version of a break really. You still have to go back but it's much longer. This break I'm going to get juggled between my mom and dad so they have an equal share of..me. That sounded really stupid but it's true. I hate going back and forth it's annoying. I like going to my moms house though, because her computer works and my grandma lives there too. I get along better with my mom and can relate more. My dad and I have different personalities because I take after my mom so much. Apparently we 'look alike' but I really dont see it. Anyways I'll pretty much hang out in my room if I'm at my dads house because he has to work, and hang out with my mom and gram if I'm at my moms house. We plan on going to the movies. Thats about it.

Feburary Break

I am sooo excited for break. It is nice to take a week off from the drama of highschool and to just unwind and not have to worry about projects and homework. I usually don't make plans until the day before. So all Im doign this break is staying home (whitch can be fun but usually is boring). Breaks bring a different mindset then summer vacation. When your on break you know you have to go to school soon and that it is only for a week. Summer vacation is exactly that its a summer vacation. Its different than break because you don't have to go to school for like 3 months. Usually during summer vacation people usually go to places and travel for weeks at a time. On breaks people don't travel as much becuase they know that they have to be back for school. I will miss seeing some of my friends that I usually see everyday but I won't get to see them because they might be going away. During break there aren't alot of responsiblities or chores. During summer vacation I have a ton. My family deffinelty puts trips off until the summer becuase certain places are soo much nicer in the summer. I deffinelty put books off it they are really boring until the summer because If I have nothing to do I can read. I am soooo excited for break.

Vacations, ya there cool

I think that summer vacation is alot more awesome than break because your off longer and its summer so its sweet. The thing i like about break is that you know how we all get tired in school and need a break and so theres that but the bad thing is the monday we come back everyone is dead and i dont like being dead because when your a ZOMBIE slayer like me its hard to go crazy and do flips and slash them up when your dead like a zombie. The reason i like summer vacation better is because its longer and its warmer so i can go outside and do more stuff like hang out on near creek or make fires at night, but really i like it better because i can go outside and just hang out. So really breaks are nice but summer vacations just like picks it up and throws it while doing a frontflip shooting a m-16 at it so ya thats cool.

break what a bummer

Breaks, how there boaring unless your going somewhere, which can still be boaring. What i'm looking forward this break is going down to New York City for the day and going to the Museum there, haha. I'll miss my friends, im not sure what my plans are actually but i just hope out of the week 99% my plans are good. my family doesnt make plans but i dont like the idea of not having plans, i dont like staying home knowing all my friends are on these cool vacations and im home doing nothing. the feeling of break compaired to summer vacation is that when your on break you know that you have a week and then you have to go back to school, but for a summer vacation you know you dont have school for 2 months so you feel more free and plus most of the time summer vacation is warmer then breaks so in the summer you can go swimming and actually do things other then getting fat. i dont really have any responsibilities for break or at all haha. There are many things i have put off but i dont think a break or a summer vacations going to matter. but i do know is that this summer vacations going to be the best because ill be 16 and driving! im so excited and soo cannot wait! people watch out for me!!

Summer Vacations and Breaks

Im looking forward to going to a Florida over break. I leave on Sunday and I am going to Universal Studios, and a few other places. I can't wait for it. I don't really know what I'm going to miss the most over this break, but its definetaly not school. I dont usually make plans over break, usually someone calls or I call them. The feeling of break is nice, but Summer Vacation is way better, although some teachers do assign "Summer Reading" which I put off until the last 2 or 3 days, or even sometimes the last day. I have a procrastination problem. My family and I usually go to atleast one place over the summer, but sometimes we don't, like last year. I think breaks are cool because, even if you like school, you still need some time off. (Longer than weekends).

censorship

I think that it is never right to censor someone. It's not right to just block someone out. Even though someone might have done something bad its never bad enough to censor them. I think its alright to censor someone when thier music has bad language in it because some people could like the music but not like the language they use. I also think that censoring a certain type of religion is okay if its on a radio because people have different religions and they may not believe in what is being preached. I don't think its okay to censor books because people have the right to read what they want. If those people choose to read a bad or "different" book thats their choice and I don't think other people should be telling them what to do. I also think its okay for the goverentment to censor things. For example the witness protection progam it's a way to keep people safe and if the govt. didn't have that then there would be chaos.I don't think that politics should be censored because people need to know what they are going to vote for. They shouldn't just tell you one side of the story they should tell you both sides of the story. I think that videos should be censored if you want them to be. For example they have the clean film and the dirty film if you have kids you dont want them to be exposed to the dirty film bencause it teaches them that that type of behavior is okay. I don't think games should be censored because if your not old enough for the game dont buy it. The company should be able to have this game and have it rated. Ideas shouldn't be censored because no one can tell you what you can and cannot think.
-kristin

Censorship

It is hard to say that censorship is either good or bad because their are so many different types of censorship. Some can be useful and others can lead to debates.
Censorship can be very useful when used in music or TV because I do not especially like hearing swear words. Also the gory parts in movies should be censored because I do not want to see that!! However, other people have different opinions about this. They may feel that lfe shold be portrayed in movies as it would be in real life, so these things should not be censored. So, it is hard to please everyone. Maybe there should be a censored version and an uncensored version.
With books, none should be censored. People should decide what they want to read. There should be warning, but people should have the right to read anything they wish.
The swear words are not as big of a topic as religion or politics. In my opinion, people should be allowed to hear as much as they want to hear, within reason (obviously if there is a confidential political issue, the public should not know about it until they are ready). Politics should be posted on television, and if people wish to watch and hear about the issues that is there choice. Religion should be optional too. I think that when someone is in a place where everyone has similar beliefs things should not be censored(church), but when a person is in a place where everyone has different beliefs, things should be censored(school).
Censorship should be decided from a person who likes censorship and someone who doesn't. In other words, two different kinds of people should comprimise on what should be allowed and what shouldn't.
Overall, I think that people should be allowed to decide what they want to see or hear. Everyone should have the right hear all opinions an make their own opinions.

Censorship

In t.v., I think that some censorship is okay. Other media, like games and movies, shouldn't be censored, just given a system to rate their content, then allow people to make their own choices about going to see them, or letting their kids see them. Same with books, you make your choice about reading it. I don't believe in censoring or banning these things because that means a few people rejected something, and are preventing other people from making their own choices.

Censorship

censorship is very hard to find nowadays. With the internet and the daily media, nothing is secret. Before the internet, youth was shielded by nudity and unwholesome things. Now that the internet is here, all you need to know is how to spell "porn" and an 6 year old can look it up. Should that be censored? Is it good to have censorship? In some ways yea and in some ways no. Anyone can say anything now and people will be able to listen, watch and comprehend things that could be bad to peoples morals.
With the uprising popularity of Rap and Hip-hop, the subgect of some of those songs could be considered mature but it isnt censored. Sure some of the swear words are taken out on the radio but should a 10 year old be singing a song about a suicidal man who takes pills and dies. Although the 10 year old might not understand, he should still be censored from things that could effect how he thinks and his morals could be effected. With the idea of video games i can say that I used to play a mature video game that was suggested for people above 17. Im 15. Some people claim that games like "Grand Theft Auto" and "Halo"will make children end up shooting people. This is a far cry from reality but is it really?
Schools around the world are trying to ban books so childrens minds wont be infected with bad ideas. but with daily media theres no protection, theres no censorship. The problem with censorship is that someone could think that something is bad but someone else could think that it could be used as a lesson to be learned. Thats a big problem in polotics and religions.
In religion, kids arnt allowed to pray in public schools. Should this censorship exist? I presonally think that it shouldnt because if I pray in school and im not bothering anyone then why should i be stopped? Some people would say that they dont want their children to get into religion because of something that happened to them but its not their choice to mold their childrens minds. The most hippocritical thing about it is that they want to protect their children from religion but they let their children to listen to rap and go on any websites they want (such as myspace).
I believe that censorship is biased on what the person believes is right. If someone is pro abortion then they want to get their idea out. While at the same time someone who is radically against abortion might try to silence or censor the other person so that no one can hear their ideas. Alexis, Kelly and Emily argue with Frank and I about polotics and ideas all the time. I believe that what we talk about shouldnt be censored. We all have ideas and we have the right to get them out. Although at some points I feel like taping Kellys mouth shut,she has her own ideas (although stupid) and she shouldnt be censored.
There's things in life that I feel should be censored for certin people but someone could have their ideas and they could be different then mine. Everyone has a voice and theres really no way to determine what should be censored and what shouldnt be. Although the goverment try's to censor what the majority thinks is right, theres no censorship and there will always be this conflict till the end of time. Thats life and theres really nothing you can do about it accept it and move on.

Censorship

Censorship is a touchy subject, and why? Because it deals with touchy subjects in itself, things that are objectable are censored many times, and this can be wrong, but also some censorship has good intension and good reasoning.

Personally I think music shouldn't be censored. But that is coming from a fifteen year old girl that is around swearing kids all day at school. A mother knows her youngest son wants to listen to the rap that her older teenage son listens to, but she doesn't want to expose him of the f-word. That's understandable. I mean, it's not like by censoring some of the music, the people that want to hear the "authentic lyrics" in their entirety can't buy the real stuff.

As for videos or movies...this effects me. I can't go see an R rated movie without a parent or guardian...and that aggrivates me. I think parents can either allow their kid to see a movie, or say no...and that is their personal choice, so there shouldn't be regulations for everyone.

Now, the censorship of games...it's not a concern of mine. I hardly ever played video games, and when I did it was Crash Bandicoot and Spyro, the purple dragon. I think that the violence in games is disgusting personally, and I don't know how people find joy in killing others on screen. What is the message? What is the point? I can understand censorship here.


Books should NOT be censored!!! You read what you want, and if a vulgar language, or a topic in the book is offending to you, stop reading. Everyone has the right to think the way they want to, and that includes authors. It is wrong when books are censored. A lot of the time, the banned books may have bad words or a horrible character but the theme of that book is to not be like that character or not say those things. For instance, Huckleberry Finn was banned in many schools. It does say the n-word, and to me, having 2 half black cousins, that word offends me. But, one of the themes of that book was how Jim, the black slave was like a father to Huck, was so intelligent and caring despite his skin color and social status. You have to read between the lines, and some people are just too ignorant to realize that.


Now, for politics and relgion... Everyone has their own view and everyone has their own beliefs. In public schools, teachers should have the right to state their opinions, but let the students have theirs. Teachers shouldn't force their ideas on students and intimidate them. With pollitics, we should debate, but never should there we a "right" and "wrong" side, it is all up to the individual.


Censorhsip can be bad, censorship can be good. It depends on the place, and the people involved. But the thing that should never ever EVER be censored is ideas and thoughts. No one can tell you how to think, and no one should shield you from all knowledge. You have to know everything about a subject to have a fair and just opinion about it. Freedom of thought is the only thing that is saving our country and the world. United we stand? No, all the same thoughts for all people, that would cause us to fall---divided we stand.

---Kelly Moak

Censoring

Censoring somethign doesn't mean that it is kept form the whole world because f.y.i. there are some weird people out there who earn a living off little kids and they thing nothing about it. Personalliy I think that censoring isn't very useful any more with all the technology out there, nothing is safe.

On the other hand censoring of people opinions can hurt an entier nation if they don't know what is going on. Some censoring is vey harmful because that person is gonna tell some one and if the right person doesn't hear it due to censoring, the wrong person will.

As for video games and movies, that's what the ratings are for and if a parent can't conrtol the movies adn video games that their kids have than they have other issues to deal with. I do not agree with the banning and censoring of books. This is so because when you pick up a book you are reading some one else's perspective and not your own and if you don't like it then don't read it!

Again polticis and religion is your opinion, how you take and understand it is different for each person. You could agree of disagree (like Em, Nate, Kelly, & Alexis)

So each person is different some so be put in jail and some are just trying to voice their opinion.

Censorship, it should die a slow and painful death

I've never been a fan of censorship, it is so very annoying. I hate it when one is listening to a song on a radio, and every now and then there is just a little section of no noise, or even worse those little beeps. They get on my nerves, and if people don't want to hear what all the lyrics of a song are, then maybe they just shouldn't listen to the song. I do think it is sometimes, somewhat inappropriate for little kids to watch or listen to some movies and music, but that doesn't mean that other people that have already been exposed to most of the things in the songs and movies shouldn't be able to listen to or watch them. If a parent doesn't want their child to watch or listen to certain things, then it is the parent's choice, and responsibility to monitor and possibly block what the child is exposed to. However, that doesn't mean that these parents should have the power to block certain things from other people or their children. i think it is ridiculous that a fourteen or fifteen year old needs not only the approval, but the presence of an adult, to watch an R rated movie. My parents do not monitor what I watch, however, I've been prevented from watching some movies in the theaters because my parents don't want to see the movie with me (not because they don't want me to watch the movie, just don't have the time). It is ridiculous that someone else (in some cases) has more power than my parents to tell me what I can be exposed to.
Though censorship of movies and music annoys me, censorship of books is just unacceptable. Everyone has the right to read what they want, to take that away would be to take away their ability to learn. If one person doesn't like the topic (because it is vulgar) or ideas (because they oppose that person's ideas), then it is that person's choice to not read it. Everyone should have the option to read and interperet books in their own way, one person should not be able to take away another person's right to have an opinion.
The censorship of religion and politics is a little more comlex. I believe everyone has a right to have an opinion, and part of that opinion includes their religious and political views. So, a person should be able to state their opinion anywhere, anytime. However, a person, such as a teacher, should not be able to teach their students that their way is the right way and the only way. In a way it is similar to my opinion on the censorship of books, a person can have their own opinion, but should not force other people to conform to their views.
Censorship, though it can be helpful on an individual level, is never acceptable on wide spread level (country, state, etc.). No, one person should have the ability to tell or imply(by censoring or banning a certain work) another person that their thoughts or ideas are not worth listening to or reading. Everyone has the right to their own opinion, and the right to have their opinion respected.

censorship

When it come to censorship there are many other factors that need to be considered. For example, around young peole censorship might be necessary so they dont feel uncomfortabtle and excluded when talking about a certain topic like religion. On the other hand adults would probably know enough to do something like change to conversation or say what they believe in, so censorship would not be needed. Other than conversations around children, i dont really believe things should be censored. For example, if someone doesnt like what a book or movie is about than they just shouldnt watch it. Although it may seem simple to just ignore something you dont like many people just cant do it which ,i think, makes censorship a bigger issue than it actually is.

Cencorship is lame. :]

Censorship is an insanily dumb thing, I must say. Why censor things? I honestly don't even understand the reason. Everyone knows what the real word or phrase is, and they've previously heard it several times. It isn't protecting anyone. Just the other day I was watching the movie The Breakfast Club which is my personal favorite. But when someone swears in it, they edit it out, and instead they censor it with things that make it sound worse than swearing because it's so unbelievably obvious that it was censored. In the movie they censored "that's shit" with "that's bologna" or they use the word "spit" instead. Seriously, that is so lame. We all definantly know what word goes in it's place, so it's not doing any good in the first place.

When people censor things they think it wil protect somebody, but it doesn't. There are topics that everyone needs to be knowledgable about and censoring these things are helping no one. Take banning books, for example. When a book is banned, the world is being kept from the knowledge and experiance that they would have recieved if they had read it. It just isn't right.

And why censor music? Music is just poems put into song. Of course, some modern artists are putting many inappropriate things such as sex and violence in their songs, but most music like that is rap. And rap isn't real music. Music can effect the way someone feels at any moment, and that's a wonderful thing. When people are feeling sad, they usually listen to music that they can relate to, or that can cheer them up. If people are feeling blissful, they'll listen to music that is happy so that they can keep the high that they have off of life. If someone is angry, they'll listen to music that sets that mood. Along with this, if someone is upset because their boyfriend broke up with them, they call their friends. It's likely that the friend they talk to will call the ex-boyfriend a vulgar term. People will be introduced to swearing, sex, violence and such even without having it in movies and music. So why should it matter if it's in movies and music? People can relate to it in those things. They're are beautiful stories that people should be able to hear about without censorship.

As Allen Jenkins said, "Censorship in any form is the enemy of creativity, since it cuts off the life and blood of creativity: ideas."

Titles are for silly people - or I just can't think of one

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Censorship, like communism, is one of those things that works in theory - but not in real life. Still - I do agree with some forms of it. If you don't want your 3-year-old watching TV shows in which people stab each other repeatedly with knives and say f*%# every other word, then go ahead - turn on the parental controls. But sooner or later, someone is going to walk by on the street swearing their head off, or one of the kid's friend's older brothers is going to be playing Grand Theft Auto while he or she is over at their house. You can hide it from them when they're young, but you can't protect anyone forever.

We wouldn't need censorship if people were smart enough to make their own decisions - in most cases, anyway. It's up to YOU whether or not you read or even flip through that book which appears to be about gang wars and squabbling prostitutes. In my opinion, books don't need to be censored, because they are physical things that you pick up out of your own free will. Same thing with stuff like video games, because it's YOU who plugs in that console - no one is making you do anything (unless of course you happen to accidentally walk by while someone is playing, in which case - blame them and don't buy the game.). Stuff like music and TV, though should be censored when it's on the radio or on public channels, just in case someone happens to be flipping through the stations and sees (or hears) something they shouldn't. But THAT wouldn't apply if we didn't have those inappropriate songs and programs. It's all just for entertainment anyway - we don't really need them. If you WANT to watch the unrated version, then buy the DVD.

I don't follow politics, and nor do I follow a religion, so I can't really give an opinion of their censorship if I don't even know what's happening. How do you censor religion anyway? Is it the sort of feeding-Christians-to-the-lions thing? I honestly have no clue.

Well anyway,
Ali

Censorshipdizzle

Censorship is wrong sometimes!!!! Even though I do not really know what it is. When I hear censorship I think of a bleep on a song in a T.V show or when people are not allowed to talked about whatever they want to they are told what to talk about and what they cannot say. I do think it is wrong in some cases but is right in others. It is right on the radio and TV because little kids watch those shows and listen to that music and shouldn't be hearing that kind of language. But it is wrong because we have freedom of speech and should be able to say whatever we want when ever. Religion should not be censored because many people have different beliefs and should be allowed to believe what they believe. Books shouldn't be censored either because you have a choice to read that book or not so if you choose that book do not complain about it because you picked it out not anyone else.

Censorship, F$#% That!

Censorship, it is one of the most annoying things EVER. Everyone has watched a comidian or something like that and you totaly loose what there saying because they bleep out half of the words. Or when you are watching a movie that you know well and there is a curse word and they replace it with the most ridiculous thing imaginable (my personal favorite is when watching The Matrix and the line "holy shit" was turned into "jeepers creepers"). I don't think that censorship is right. Not just bleeping out words, fogging up the middle finger, or inserting a line that obviously does not belong. Many schools are censoring by banning books, like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn and most of the time it is for the most obserd reasons, so obserd that it is obvious that the people banning the books have never even read them giving them no right to decide how appropriate they are. Huck Finn was banned for using racialy charged terms like "Nigger" but if anyone had read the book they would relize that the book is very anti racism and slavery, also that was how people of that area and time period spoke, you cannot change the past to better suit your preasent.

My opinion about censorship is very similar to that of Clare Booth Luce who said, "Censorship, like charity, should begin at the home; but unlike charity, it should end there." (thats right Gabs I read your walls). Parents should decide what is appropriate for their kids to read or watch, no one else, because what is appropriate for one person is not nesisarraly appropreate for another. Parents have the ability to know what their kids are reading and can act upon it in a way they believe necisary, and with new TVs and computers with blocks and parental controls they can do the same with those mediums.

For games I don't think there should not be any censorship. What they have now just lableing what it is rated and why is good enough. Then a parent can decide if it is appropriate.

ideas should never be censored. no one should ever be affraid to express an idea because they might be persicuted. If we never did things like that durring the middle ages and the spanish inquisition our technology might be a lot further along.

So that is my long rant of CENSORSHIP (lightnigh in background) take it, digest it, think about it, and do with it as you will.

Censorhip

I feel very strongly about the issue of censorship. Yes, it can apply when dealing with very dangerous sercurity issues or weapons. However, when applied to everyday items such as entertainment media, it is never okay. People have very different point of views and what is appropriate for some to see may not be for others, but that is the only wat we can grow. If people are shielded from the world their whole lives they will only sink into a supremely bad state of being as the world opens up before them and all this mess becomes apparent. People need to experience these things and become aware of them as they grow, coming to accept each as a way of life if they truely want to mature. Nobody should be able to force their opinion of what is and isnt okay for poeple to see upon anyone else. These products are made with a specific audience in mind and it is not fair that someone can stick their head in and get an uninformed glimpse into that culture, then decide it is wrong and alienate all the people living within there. All censorship is caused because of ignorance of an issue. Some examples of this include the burning of many books and people for witchcraft, the persecution of jews, hatred towards swear words, as they are only words and can do no more harm to someone than what you are reading right now($#@!), and the more recent bannings of movies and games such as a video game called Mass Effect, which has a deep story to it and contains fairly tame homosexual sex scenes to advance relationships of the characters. Controversies and ignorance spring out at the mere notion of something that is considered a taboo by certain people and it really needs to stop. We have more important issues at hand, (like that war or something where people are being brutally killed everyday), fretting over things like this is a time waster and people need to get off their high horse and see where other people are coming from. People may say that some things people should be protected from, and that is fine, but it is up to the parents of children, not any kind of political or religious institution, to decide that. Life is not pleasant, so why are people trying to keep an illusion of a perfvect world? It is because they are scared, they want to ignore things like poverty and starvation so they can live in peace. All I have to say is "Wake up, you can never silence people and their ideas, as long as free will remains."

censorship

I dont really think about censorship much but I do think that there are some things in the world that should be censored. For example, some songs should maybe be censored for people that prefer not to hear bad things. However, I think that people should be able to express how they feel anyway they want without people telling them otherwise. If there are some people that do not care to hear or read bad things than there should be a way for them not to. Some things should be censored though. If you are saying things that people dont want to hear in a way that is harmfull or done out of entertainment than I think they should be censored. But if you are saying something to get your point across our are expressing you feelings rationaly then that should be okay. I think most of the things that are censored should be for the purpose of younger children. This way they dont have to be exposed to things they shouldnt be hearing at a young age. If you are going to censor something however, I dont think it should be someones ideas about something. Sure the lyrics to songs are a persons ideas but there are other ways of expressing yourself than saying bad things through a song. If a person is not doing anything wrong and someone is censoring them than I dont think that that is right. Material things should be censored for the fear of exposing it to other people that dont need to see it. If someone is saying something, they dont need to be ignored for it. Those are my ideas about censorship

Really, really late blog on switching places...

Oh, my gosh! I'm so sorry this is so late. Life just kinda got in the way, ya know? But anyways... I think if I had to switch places with someone, it would have to be with... hmm... probably someone from another country that is less fortunate then people in this country. Like, someone from Pakistan, maybe. And I say this because I am doing a current event project for social studies on Pakistan, and what is happening there right now is totally out of control. I think it would be interesting to see how people get by over there with a government that is falling ever faster toward Anarchy. Being able to understand what these people have to deal with on a regular basis.

It would also be pretty cool to see how their culture is different from ours. I mean, there are big differences, such a religious prefrences, but little things, like what they talk about at dinner, or what is important to them. I think that Americans tend to be more materialistic and technlogically based then people in other countries. I mean, we look at countries like... lets say... Ecuador, (i dont know, first country to come to mind...) who do not have the advancements in technology like we have, and they seem to be getting along alright without them. I don't know, I just think it would be kinda cool to see what it is like not to be like we are here.

But I have to be honest and say that I could only spend about a day there, because their government makes me soo angry that I think I would either end up assassinated, like Benazir Bhutto, or exiled from the country. no joke.

Anyway, that's my shpeil on switching places... not the best thing i have ever written, but it's there.